On April 22, the professors of the art and design school that participate in the PD programme ‘Kunst + Creatief’ came together to discuss and shape the key ingredients of the curriculum for the PD=candidates. In four sessions, they explored topics like the ethics of artistic research, diversity of degree work, different forms of writing and complex research environments. The meeting was the first of a longer series of co-creation events in which the professors and the taskforce will fill in the details of the PD program. Through the collaborative work, an ongoing conversation and community building around artistic and design research will take shape as well.